Fri 23 Feb 2007
After my last post I’ve had a number of people giving me scripture that prove me wrong here or there and I wanted to document which ones and what they say in order to portray a fair and balanced thread. The main topic of today’s post will be the first 3 days and the remarks about how I just don’t understand the scripture. First a refresher on my previous statements.
Basically, it is my opinion that the Bible, while historical in content, contains no revealing comments what so ever that only god could know. As an example I covered the first 3 days and the fact that there was no Sun, yet we had morning, evening and plants growing here and there. To refute this, people have been telling me that God is light and he did not require the sun for things to grow. They also like to tell me that plants and life could exist without the Sun and therefore did not require it to get started. There is also the line of logic that states that a day was not a 24 hour period of time (this of course to try to explain why bible time provides the earth and the entire universe with a mere 6500 year age).
In response, I am going to read directly from the Bible and provide commentary that you can ponder if you’re interested.
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. This simply tells us that God created everything, yet really doesn’t give us a time line for any of it taking place. From this we could surmise that the earth and universe are indeed older that 6500 years of age, but that nothing should have lived or existed during this time period since he had not created anything yet.
2) Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. At this point, God seems to be floating about the earth, but it further defines that the earth was without form and empty. Water seems to be the only thing it speaks of existing at this point. The key element to pickup from this statement however, is that their was darkness. If indeed God “IS” light, then there would not have been darkness during this floating period. To further clarify this, the claim was that plants and life existed from his light and not the light from the Sun. If this were indeed true then his light would have to fill the entire sky since the earth is not flat and a single source of light could not have produced the same effect across the entire surface.
3) And God Said, “Let there be light”, and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he seperated the light from darkness. God called the light day and the darkness he called night. And there was evening and there was morning - the first day. This verse creates quite a few problems in a number of areas for those trying to make verses written before man understood the planets, into fitting what we know today to be fact. First of all, God made light. This further refutes the claim that “God IS Light”, because it would mean that he was creating himself. Secondly it speaks of him naming night and day, yet we understand night and day to only be those periods as the earth rotates around its axis and the sun appears to set and rise, when in fact that is not at all what happens.
We also know that light is either on or its off, or its hidden in the case of our Sun and rotation. For him to have created night and day without the Sun, he’d actually either have to not be floating on earth as the bible says and be off somewhere in the distant, or he’d have to be turning himself on and off like a christmas light to give a similar effect.
The bible makes it a point to meaure this period of time as 1 day, morning and evening, not simply a period of time or some other means of measurement. As stated in earlier blogs, I think this was done to show how powerful god was, but it makes no sense for a number of reasons:
First, a day as we know it is a man made unit of measure to mean when there is light. More definately when the Sun is shinning, and more to the point, when the side of the earth you happen to be standing on is pointed at the Sun. So unless you were standing at a specific point on the planet, to call something day would have no meaning at all without the Sun existing and the earth spinning. Yet, none of these simple facts of reality exist in the bible. In fact, it is very obvious from many other versus in the bible that the earth was indeed flat and the Sun actually rushed around it in order to come up again on the other side. Here are a few versus for you to read about the planet actually being flat: Isaiah 11:12, 40:22, Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11, Mathew 4:8, Psalms 104:5 Ecclesiastes 1:5.
Note, that despite people’s comments about the bible stating the earth was round, or a sphere, there are no actual verses that make these claims. Its actually quite clear the people that wrote the Bible truly believed that the earth was flat and everything we see revolved around it.
And God Said, Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water. So God made the expanse and seperated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. God called the expanse sky. And there was evening and morning the second day. On this day God supposedly created the atmosphere, yet it appears to me the people really didn’t understand what the atmosphere was when they wrote this. They talk about water in the sky like they believed their was a great ocean above them and it spilled out when it rained. And that God kept them seperated as if they were two different bodies of water. Again, there are no earth shattering revelations in this verse so we’ll just move on.
And God said, Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let the dry ground appear. And it was so. God called the dry ground land and the gathered waters he called seas. And God saw that it was good. Then God said, Let the land produce vegetation:… You get the point. Again, we’re still marking each period of time with a morning and evening which refutes all the claims that these days were longer than a single day. It specifically states that god named day and night and that he named them after light and dark. So the constant remarks about how these were longer than a single day, seem to go against the statements in the book completely. Its also entertaining to me that God created light and saw that it was good. Did he not already know that it was good? And since we know now that light only comes from the burning of stars, exactly how did he create it without the stars being in place. The bible never speaks of him transfering his light source over to that of the Sun later on.
We also have vegetation growing without the Sun, moon, stars or anything else. Only the light source of god which would have to have somehow lit the entire sky in all directions and provided just the right amount of heat to let things get to cooking. All very strange that he’d disrupt the entire universe during these early years and now be completely gone to never again bother anything. Its also quite strange why if he truely created the universe that he’d have caused the entire thing to expand instead of just having things hang in the sky in one place for us to view. In fact, for what specific purpose did he create all the stars and the Sun? You could argue the Sun for keeping us warm, although that is quite stupid, due to the fact that he could have just left the original light source in place since it was obviously perfect for our existance.
And finally, on day 4 he finally creates the Sun and stars and the person that wrote it never mentions anything specific. Only that he created them and that they would govern night and day, yet he never mentions how night and day existed without them. Total oversite if you ask me! Consider that if God was your source of light and he was making night and day, he was only doing it to entertain himself, since there was no other reason for it to happen. Also, since he was the light source, he was actually having to turn himself on and off every 12 or so hours in order to make himself have a night and day. Then he pitched in the entire universe with all the stars and moon, and Sun at an instant, all in perfect balance and expanding forever.
Its all quite strange to me how today, people go to church and listen to all the sermons, and give their money like blind men doing as they were taught. NEVER, picking up the book and reading it to see what it really says. I take a lot of heat because I actually read the book and question what it says. Most people tell me that I’m not suppose to question, I’m suppose to just believe! That I can’t possibly understand God’s mind, so don’t try. All the while being completely blind to the fact that they’re in a cult. Cult leaders look for people that they can manipulate and keep under control. They can convince these people that they shouldn’t ask questions and should just believe his/her every word. Telling the people that they speak for God and explaining to them what he wants them to do, but without any real meat to the story. Oh, and don’t forget that old parental trick, fear of pain! You will go to hell if you don’t believe in Jesus!
Christians are quick to tell you that the terrorists are criminal, they are evil itself. Yet, not a single one knows a thing about what it would take to believe in something so much that you’d be willing to die for your god. These people don’t blow themselves up to be evil, they do it because they truely believe their God told them to do it. There isn’t a Christian alive with that kind of faith. Yet, its faith alone, because the terrorists are no better than the Christians with their god as they also practice the same blind faith.
People do not want to be alone, they don’t want to accept it. As a result throughout mankind’s history, we’ve created religions of all kinds to help us feel better. These religions have mainly served to help kings rule its people and to keep people scared and in constant search of God’s favor. They continue to pay a church that has never really done a thing for those that pay. Its all a mind game to make them feel better and nothing more. Show me a single person that lives a more gifted life than me, just because they go to church, give them their money and GOD rewards them. If God does exist, he doesn’t care about anything that is going on down here. We’re but a virus that has started growing on the planet and thinks that it’s important. We’re only important to ourselves, and cornered we’ll more than prove that.
Its a shame that we kill each other and take each others rights to live in the name of religion. We should all just live in peace and stop trying to harm each other. When a man steps up and says lets fight, we should only fight to have him sit. ALL Wars have been waged and fought by the people, as a result of the actions of a single Man thinking himself King. People follow and do as they are told and there are those that take exteme advantage of it. We should all just say enough, sit down and shut up, let us exist peacefully!
–glenn hancock
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