Ron's Project

[glenn]

This is glenn and I'm receiving emails from Ron and wanted to log them here for everyone to see. I'm working with him to get him to join the forum so we can all communicate with him better but for now I"ll just post what he's done into the forum as I learn more.

He has build the Round cell with pipe design. He is using a little smaller diameter pipe than Dave called for at 3/4 OD outside and 3/8" od inside. Outside tubes are 4" long and inside are 5" long. with 7 sets. He also physically touches all outside pipes.

We wanted to test the results of water level on the test to see what type of level performed the best. Here are the results of that test:

1mm Below top of electrodes he counted 60 bubbles in 60sec at 12.2vdc

water level just above the electrodes he counted 58 bubbles in 60 seconds 12.2vdc

water level 2" below top of cell he counted 112 bubbles per second at 12.2vdc

water level 1" below top of cell he counted 130 bubbles per second at 12.2vdc

To fill a 2 liter bottle (empty bottle of water) it took 45minutes and to fill a pint bottle took around 12minutes to fill.

He is also very confident that he's getting browns gas because he's been exploding it when done.

I'm still waiting on more information and will log it as I receive it but it looks to me as though he's doing straight electrolysis at this point and nothing else. Again, will provide more info as I get it.

oh, and he was seeing about .3amps from the look of the picture of his meter.

Here are a few shots:





8.13.06 Added a couple more pictures I received from Ron..

[glenn]

The latest with Ron.

Ron has built a new cell and sent me some more pictures. The pictures show how active his cell is just sitting in a 5 gallon bucket of water. I think he is using tap water based on how nasty it becomes but still waiting on word from that.

Here are the two new cells:



Notice that the cell on the left does not have the plugs in the top of the center anodes. Ron says he's seen the bubbles flowing back through the center and he added the plugs just to see what would happen.

Here is a shot of the two cells running without the plugs. He's running a 9.5V charge and roughly 2.39A with the cells run in parallel. The cell on the left is the new one without the plugs. One note is that this cell has not been conditioned either which may explain why its running a little weaker than the one on the right.



This final picture is one with the left cell having the plugs added to the anodes. You can definately see a big difference. Although the left cell is still weaker than the right its an obvious improvement from the above photo without the tube plugs.

[redback]

Hi All.
I am new to the world of Hydrogen and with the small cell i do my testing with, i have one question to ask the group. How do you stop that Brown Scum from appearing on top of the water.

Redback.

[Venom]

I am also new, but from what i have gathered from the videos (on the main site), you only get the horrible scum when you either have salt water or when you add Potassium Hydroxide to the water.

With normal tap water, i think it doesnt produce this or as much scum. Because of the conversion, the water i think (i could be wrong in all this) will become scummy over time, by using the method of salt water or adding Potassium Hydroxide to the water, both speed up the conversion from water to hydrogen and oxygen, thus the water will get that yellow, oldie look to it quicker than what you would do with normal tap water.

I think you will have to replace your water every few hours in order to get rid of the scum / old yellow water.

[redback]

Hi Venom. It seems to appear when using tap more than when i use hydroxide. I some how think the more i leave i switched on and keep removing the scum the better it may become. I will try that test to see if the tubes become conditioned. Only time will tell. I will let you know how i get on with it.

Redback

[glenn]